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Truly Human Leadership

One of the most fundamental of human needs is to know that who we are and what we do matter. As leaders in business, we have the unique opportunity to let our team members know that they do. And when they feel valued and cared for at work, they return home and enjoy better relationships with their loved ones, friends, neighbors and others. This world needs Truly Human Leadership. On this podcast, you’ll hear about what it means to be conscious leaders and have a conscious business. You'll hear from voices of inspirational leadership like Simon Sinek, Amy Cuddy, Raj Sisodia of Conscious Capitalism and many more. You'll also hear stories and insights learned through Barry-Wehmiller and it's CEO Bob Chapman’s transformation to traditional business management to Truly Human Leadership.
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At Barry-Wehmiller, we define success by the way we touch the lives of others. Everybody Matters is a show dedicated to the idea that when organizations care enough to show their people that who they are and what they do matter, they unlock the only business idea with truly unlimited potential. On this podcast, you’ll hear a lot of talk about talk about culture, about leadership, about vision – stories and insights learned through Barry-Wehmiller and CEO Bob Chapman’s transformation to Truly Human Leadership.

Oct 1, 2024

Jacob Stoller previously appeared on our podcast to discuss his last book, The Lean CEO: Leading the Way to World-Class Excellence. A number of years later, he has a new book: Productivity Reimagined: Shattering Performance Myths to Achieve Sustainable Growth.

This episode features a fascinating conversation about the evolution of Jacob's thinking between the writing of his two books that coalesced around the idea of productivity. Mainly, are we viewing the idea of productivity through the correct lens and how can companies approach the idea of productivity in a more sustainable way? One that benefits not only the company, but the people within.

Also on this episode, we touch on topics that are currently at the forefront of the productivity discussion, such as AI and remote work. Jacob's research into these aspects of poductivity may surprise you.

Sep 23, 2024

Barry-Wehmiller’s CEO, Bob Chapman, often says that to be a Truly Human Leader, you need to have the skills and courage to care.

Often, when you are placed into the role of leadership the traditional way to view the people within your span of care is as functions. So, you try to get them to do what you want so you can be successful, not because you care about them. It’s not about who those people are or why they matter. They’re just a function for your success or the success of your organization. Caring is reserved for family and friends outside the doors of the office.

But, Bob says, caring is what we need more of in the workplace. Everyone on the team – especially leaders -- needs to shed their emotional armor. It’s only then that we connect more deeply so that the 40 hours a week we spend away from home are not draining but fulfilling. As leaders, we should create work environments in which our team members feel safe, cared for and comfortable being their true, fully human selves.

This is also one of the main insights in a new book in which Bob and Barry-Wehmiller are featured. It’s called The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out. It was written by four senior partners from McKinsey and Company, one of the most prestigious consulting firms in the world. It’s a look-behind-the-curtain at McKinsey’s step-by-step approach to transforming leaders both professionally and personally, which was gleaned through lessons from its legendary CEO leadership program “The Bower Forum,” which has counseled 500+ global CEOs over the past decade, as well as McKinsey’s global CEO counseling practice.

On today’s podcast, we feature a conversation between Bob and Ramesh Srinivasan, one of the McKinsey Senior partners who co-authored The Journey of Leadership. We’ll talk about what it means to lead from the inside out, and how that connects to Bob’s thoughts on caring in the workplace.

Sep 9, 2024

McKinsey and Company is one of the most, if not the most, prestigious consulting firms in the world. McKinsey creates immeasurable value for its clients, influences how the business world operates, and produces many of the world's business and political leaders.

Barry-Wehmiller and our CEO, Bob Chapman were recently featured in an important new book written by four McKinsey Senior Partners. It’s called The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out. It was written by Hans-Werner Kaas, Dana Maor, Ramesh Srinivasan, and Kurt Strovink.

The Journey of Leadership offers leaders a method by which they can assess their own leadership and reinvent their approach in a way that is in alignment with many of the principles Bob Chapman talks about, and that we often talk about on this podcast. The authors have packed it full of lessons from McKinsey’s legendary CEO leadership program “The Bower Forum,” which has counseled 500+ global CEOs over the past decade, as well as insights gleaned from McKinsey’s global CEO counseling practice. The Journey of Leadership shares how you can hone the psychological, emotional, and ultimately, the human attributes to be what we would call a Truly Human Leader.

We at Barry-Wehmiller are honored to be one of the case studies in the book, appearing in chapter 12, which is titled: For People to Care, Show Them You Care.”

On today’s podcast, we bring you a conversation between Bob Chapman and one of the authors of The Journey of Leadership, Hans-Werner Kaas. Hans-Werner introduces himself and explains the inspiration behind the book and he and Bob have a meaningful discussion about the importance of human-centered leadership.

Aug 19, 2024

Have you ever thought about what your eulogy might say? It’s kind of a macabre thought, but it’s actually a pretty important question. And it’s the topic of conversation on this podcast between Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, and Garrett Potts, an assistant professor at the University of South Florida.

As you’ve heard over several episodes of this podcast, Barry-Wehmiller is working with a number of universities to try and instill principles of Truly Human Leadership into business schools, so future leaders are not only taught the hard skills you’d expect they need in their career, but also the essential skills of how to be a caring leader. Bob met Garrett through those efforts and he came up with the idea of having students write their own eulogy. Bob challenged Garrett to impress upon his students to live their lives with intention and ask them, “When your life comes to its end, which eventually it will, what do you want people to say about your life?”

On this podcast, you’ll hear why Bob and Garrett think this is an appropriate challenge for students at this point in their career, but you’ll also hear a broader discussion on the purpose of education and how better leaders can be created through it.

Aug 5, 2024

Rich Sheridan is the CEO and co-founder of Menlo Innovations, a software development company based in Ann Arbor, Michigan. He's the author of the books Joy, Inc. and Chief Joy Officer: How Great Leaders Elevate Human Energy and Eliminate Fear.

In chapter three of Chief Joy Officer, Rich says “If there is a core tenet upon which I would build my leadership life, and in doing so inspire those I led, it is this: love wins every time.” He then goes on to relate one of the most famous passages of the Bible, 1 Corinthians 13: 4-8, to the qualities of a loving leader.

Whether or not you’re a religious person – in fact, that verse is used often in even the most secular of wedding ceremonies – the relation of what the verse says to the qualities a leader should have is powerful.

Rich talks about this chapter on this podcast. However, we encourage you to pick up his book and read for yourself. That chapter alone may affect the way you approach your responsibility for those entrusted to your care in your organization.

Jul 11, 2024

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people.

They do this by helping those organizations identify, develop and equip their leaders. One of the ways Chapman & Co helps to equip leaders in an organization is with information. One of the ways they can provide that information is by administering an organizational culture survey.

On this podcast, we’re going to do a deeper dive into organizational culture surveys and implementing them within a global organization with Chapman & Co.’s survey expert, Morgan Miller. Morgan will explain the whats, whys and hows of organizational culture surveys and then she'll also talk to Yasmin Nehls, a people team leader from Barry-Wehmiller’s BW Papersystems company. Together, they address the challenges in implementing a global organizational culture survey, but they’ll also talk about the ways the survey has brought change to their organization.

Jun 27, 2024

Businesses destroy lives all the time. Not just by being poor partners to their consumers or communities, but through poor leadership and work environments where the employees feel overlooked or disregarded.

But what if businesses could be instruments of healing instead of destruction?

Our good friend Raj Sisodia and his co-writer, Michael Gelb, have written a wonderful examination of how business can be a force for good in the world with their book, The Healing Organization. We at BW encourage you to buy it, read it and take it to heart. Consider the stories they tell of companies who have found a better way to do business for all their stakeholders and ask yourself how you can contribute in your organization to create a better world.

Raj and Michael talk about their new book and share their valuable insights on this episode of our podcast.

Jun 13, 2024

“Most leaders understand their influence on team members’ lives during work hours, but often enough, they don’t think about how their leadership affects team members outside of the workplace as well.”

Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, wrote this in a blog post on trulyhumanleadership.com titled “Wellness and Work: What's the ROI of Caring?” The connection between leadership and health has been a major point in his speeches over the past few years. In fact, he once told a group of CEOs that they were the cause of the healthcare crisis in our country.

A friend of ours, Jeffrey Pfeffer has a book, Dying for a Paycheck, which is a deep dive into the connection between the workplace and poor health. He had this to say about his book: "I tell people all the time...The workplace is killing people, and nobody cares. And to me, the second part is worse than the first. We do not care about human health and well-being. We do not care about human psychological physical health. We do not care about people. And until we change that orientation, it’s going to be ugly."

Much of Jeffrey’s book reinforces many of the things we’ve been saying for awhile. On this podcast, he talks about his book and explains why he thinks the workplace is killing people. 

May 30, 2024

A few years ago, BW CEO Bob Chapman had a conversation with Jane Adshead-Grant, a facilitator and coach in the UK and Europe.

In this conversation, they talk about the concept of the need for a “Human Revolution” in business. Bob has written before about the trajectory of leadership in business from the Industrial Revolution to now. As we look at the focus and priorities of business leaders today, there are bright spots, but the dark specter of management still looms large over our organizations.

What is the “Human Revolution” and how would it change business today? Listen to this episode to find out.

May 16, 2024

Anese Cavanaugh is the CEO of Active Choices, Inc. She is the creator of the IEP Method (Intentional Energetic Presence) and the Positive Energy Workplace Initiative and a strategist and advisor to leaders and organizations around the world. She is devoted to helping organizations support their people so they are able to show up and bring their best selves to the table, create significant impact in their lives, and create authentic positive energy workplaces and cultures. Anese is a keynote speaker and author of Contagious Culture: Show Up, Set the Tone, and Intentionally Create an Organization That Thrives and Contagious You: Unlock Your Power to Influence, Lead, and Create the Impact You Want.

This was our first conversation with Anese on our podcast. She is as insightful as she is energetic and is passionate about making organizations better places to work and be. 

May 2, 2024

Dr. Donna Hicks is an Associate at the Weatherhead Center for International Affairs at Harvard University. You may recall that she has facilitated dialogues in numerous unofficial diplomatic efforts in the Middle East, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Colombia, Cuba, Libya and Syria. She has consulted with governments, corporations, schools, churches, and non-governmental organizations. 

And she is an expert on the subject of dignity.

On this podcast, Donna introduces the Dignity Model and explains how it has been used to address numerous leadership challenges in the corporate world, healthcare, education, governments and organizations of all kinds. She also tries to give an understanding of what dignity is and is not, the neuroscience of dignity and what it looks like to have “dignity consciousness.”

Apr 18, 2024

Listening is not always a dedicated subject in educational curriculums. 

Think about it. There are speech classes, debate teams. You don't hear much about listening classes. That's why it's one of the foundational leadership classes taught in Barry-Wehmiller's internal university. We teach our people to "listen like leaders." It not only affects their relationships at work and with customers, but it has been shown to have a pround affect at home with their families, friends and neighbors. 

On this podcast, you'll hear how those teachings are being integrated into college curriculum by Lisa Waite, a professor in communication studies at Kent State University. Lisa teaches a course titled Business and Professional Communication. On this episode she discusses incorporating Barry-Wehmiller's empathetic listening curriculum and CEO Bob Chapman's TEDx talk into her college courses, as well as the effect it has had on her students and their leadership skills.

Apr 4, 2024

Laurie Butz is the President and CEO of Capital Credit Union, a credit union with more than 120,000 members in northeast Wisconsin.

And we at Barry-Wehmiller definitely consider Laurie part of our extended family.

Laurie’s husband, Dennis, worked for many years for our Paper Converting Machine Company, or PCMC, based in Green Bay, WI, part of our BW Converting group of companies.

Our CEO, Bob Chapman, has been privileged to be part of Laurie’s leadership journey. And Laurie has enlisted Bob and Cynthia Chapman’s non-profit, Chapman Foundation for Caring Communities, to bring our leadership training into her organization. Laurie is also working with the Chapman Foundation on a very special initiative in Green Bay, where Capital Credit Union is based.  

As we always say at the beginning of this podcast, the way we lead impacts the way people live. It’s one of the driving forces behind the importance of practicing what we call Truly Human Leadership. On this podcast, we’re going to tie all our common threads together as we talk to Laurie about the ripple effect of Truly Human Leadership in her life at home and, consequently, her own leadership journey.

Mar 19, 2024

On several episodes of this podcast, you’ve heard about Barry-Wehmiller’s efforts to transform how business education is taught. If you want leaders who have the skills and courage to care, that should be part of their education before they are out in the world and in positions of responsibility.

But what if we can reach people before they are in business school? What if these skills of Truly Human Leadership are taught alongside history, math, science and grammar in primary and secondary education? It could make an amazing difference in our neighborhoods and communities and in the future of our world.

This has become a focus of our CEO, Bob Chapman, and to kick-start this effort, we recently hosted a very important group of friends and allies at our St. Louis office to reflect on the purpose of education and formulate a vision to inspire our efforts as we begin in earnest. An “education summit,” if you will.

On this podcast, we’re going to feature a collage of takeaways from that special day from Anne White of Chapman Foundation for Caring Communities, David-Aaron Roth of Charlotte Latin School and Sarah Bennison of the Mattering Movement. 

Mar 7, 2024

If you want to change the way people lead, maybe you should go to the source of where they’re taught to lead – business schools. Maybe the way we teach people to lead should change.

Christopher Reina is the Founding and Executive Director of the Institute for Transformative Leadership and an Associate Professor in the Department of Management and Entrepreneurship at Virginia Commonwealth University.

Chris came into our orbit at Barry-Wehmiller a number of years ago. Our relationship with Chris blossomed into a partnership at Virginia Commonwealth University, spearheaded by our Director of Outreach, Brian Wellinghoff, who is now their Executive in Residence.

Chris has also recently published a paper in the Academy of Management Review, titled “Humanistic Organizing: The Transformative Force of Mindful Organizational Communication,” that lays out a framework for businesses to transform into more people-centered organizations where individuals feel valued and a strong sense of belonging. And it features Barry-Wehmiller as one of its case studies.

On this podcast, we’re bringing Chris and Brian together to talk about the partnership at VCU to transform the way leadership is taught. 

Feb 22, 2024

Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman met Steve Jones, former head football coach at Kimberly High School, several years ago through a mutual friend.

Coach Jones said something to Bob that made a lasting impression: “When people truly care for one another, it’s amazing how hard they will work for each other.”

When Coach Jones stepped down in 2021, his career at Kimberly High School included five WIAA state championships, 10 conference championships, a 70-game winning streak that set a state record and an overall 129-9 record. He was the 2016 and 2017 Associated Press state coach of the year and the Wisconsin Football Coaches Association/Green Bay Packers coach of the year from 2015 to 2017.

But Coach Jones’ desire to spread the principles of caring leadership extends much further than his team. He developed and taught classes on leadership at Kimberly High School, touching the lives of many future leaders.

In fact, that's why Coach Jones stepped off the football field, to try to help leaders everywhere up their game.

In 2021, Coach Jones and Lucas Jadin, a professional mindset coach, co-authored the Amazon best-seller,The Twin Thieves: How Great Leaders Build Great Teams. Together, they formed Jadin Jones, a company that seeks to inspire and coach world-class business leaders, educators, and elite athletes to thrive in competitive environments, to empower themselves and others and compassionately create cultures of strength, unity, and resiliency.

On this podcast, first released in 2019, Coach Jones talks about his efforts on and off the football field to bring caring leadership principles to upcoming generations. Leaders in business should listen closely.

Feb 8, 2024

The leaders of your business can affect its health and vibrancy. They also can have a tremendous impact on the people within their span of care in the business.

So, when it’s time to bring someone new into your organization, how do you know when you’re hiring the right person? You can’t always rely on your gut or a couple of meetings. If you make the wrong decision it can be devastating to the business and the people within.

When Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute works with an organization to identify leaders, they use a number of proprietary pre-hire assessments and tools to help make those determinations. But it’s not a bunch of impersonal, rigid tests. They take a truly human approach to pre-hire testing, to make the best decision for everyone involved.

On this podcast, we’re going to explore how to keep the humanity in pre-hire assessments with the experts at Chapman & Co. First, you’ll hear a mini-case study as Chapman & Co.’s managing partner, Sara Hannah interviews a customer, Carol O’Neill of BW Packaging. You’ll hear how Carol and her team have used pre-hire testing and the difference it has made in that business. Then you’ll get a deeper dive into how Chapman & Co approaches pre-hire testing as Matt Whiat interviews Chapman & Co partner Melinda Bremley, including discussion on the role of AI in the assessment world.

Jan 25, 2024

Dr. Melinda Bremley is the newest Partner at Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people.

Melinda and the rest of the team at Chapman & Co do this by helping those organizations identify, develop and equip their leaders. You can learn more about Chapman & Co. on their website: ccoleadership.com

Melinda has over 25 years of experience in executive coaching, excelling in nurturing leadership at various career stages. At Chapman & Co., Melinda plays a pivotal role in realizing their mission, bringing extensive experience in creating and maintaining selection processes across organizational levels. Notably, she also spearheads succession planning and CEO/President performance feedback processes.

On this podcast, we’d like to introduce you to Dr. Melinda Bremley through a discussion she has with two other Chapman & Co team members, Morgan Witzig and Jessie Turner. They’ll talk about Melinda’s background and experience, but also talk about leadership coaching, the benefits of assessments, AI and leadership and Melinda talks about some of the biggest challenges she is seeing leaders face at the moment.

Jan 18, 2024

Times of transition can be challenging for any organization. But challenging times and times of change often presents many opportunities for growth. 

But the ability to maximize those opportunities depends on effective leadership.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people.

A few years ago, Chapman & Co. acquired Leadership Alliance – a data-driven talent acquisition and development business equipped with a team of consultants, many of whom have their Ph.D. in psychology.

The Leadership Alliance brand is now officially combining under the Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute name, which has inspired a number of emotions around the transition, especially from Leadership Alliance’s founders.

On this podcast, Chapman & Co.’s Matt Whiat talks to David and Karen Weller, Leadership Alliance founders and current partners in Chapman & Co. We’re going to explore this transition in the hope that it can help other organizations in their own change journeys. We explore some of the things to keep in mind to make transitions as smooth as possible for the people inside the business.

 

Jan 12, 2024

It is a universal truth -- every one of us, no matter what our job or where we live, simply wants to know that who we are and what we do matters. As leaders in business, we have the awesome responsibility to let people know that they do. Our goal at Barry-Wehmiller is to show the world that business can be a powerful force for good when we realize that the way we lead impacts the way people live and have the courage to care for those we lead. 

And that is what Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, did as he spoke to more than 80 different organizations in 2023, sharing the message of Truly Human Leadership. This podcast features a talk he gave to a luncheon for business leaders at Calvin University in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Hopefully, it will inspire you to be the leader you wish you had in the coming year. 

Dec 14, 2023

At Barry-Wehmiller, we consider leadership to be an awesome responsibility--it holds the key to growing our business and, as important, improving the lives of our team members.

It’s our job, as leaders, to help them establish goals so they know how to contribute, to remove barriers that get in the way of them achieving their goals, and help them chart a path for their growth.

Our team members deserve that and, consequently, if we’re asking them to contribute, we must ensure that they are led by leaders who have the skills to help them perform and the courage to care about them along the way.

A few years ago, we introduced Leader Expectations & Commitments, developed to help all formal Barry-Wehmiller leaders with team members in their span of care understand the actions and skills needed to embody Truly Human Leadership. 

On this podcast, we thought we’d explore Barry-Wehmiller’s leader expectations and commitments through five outstanding leaders in our organization. You’ll get to hear how they view these expectations in the scope of their responsibilities and how they try to apply the commitments in their daily interactions and leadership of those within their span of care. 

Nov 30, 2023

While presenting our message of Truly Human Leadership, our CEO Bob Chapman is often asked: What about the people who don't get it? What about the people who actively work against positive change?

Barry-Wehmiller has acquired more than 130 companies and we've certainly found that the people within that company are a product of their experiences. They may have experienced great leaders in their past or, more likely, they have had some negative experiences. Consequently, some have difficulty trusting our leadership message. That’s okay. We’re all at a different point on this journey, and we have to be patient and trust that the skeptics will eventually see the transformative power it can have—on both their work lives and their personal lives.

On this podcast, you'll hear the story of Randall Fleming, who was a welder in our BW Papersystems company in Phillips, Wisconsin, and very much a skeptic. Randall's story is testament to the life-changing power of meaningful work. It's what happens when you establish a workplace culture of empathy and shared purpose as opposed to the "command and control" atmosphere of most traditional management environments. 

Nov 16, 2023

When Lean was introduced to the Barry-Wehmiller organization a number of years ago, CEO Bob Chapman's concern was that people would be lost along the way. But we found a way to adopt Lean methods and stay true to our Guiding Principles of Leadership. 

Instead of using Lean to reduce waste, we use it to reduce frustration. It's part of the bag of tools we use in continuous improvement to ensure a stable and thriving business for the benefit of our people. It's part of our overall Operational Excellence strategy. Our vision is about engaging people’s head, heart and hands in creating their own future and actively shaping the legacy of the business every day.

On this podcast, we take a look at how our approach to Lean puts people at the center to make it about eliminating frustration, not waste. In addition, you'll hear an interview with Jacob Stoller, author of The Lean CEO. Jacob’s book features a number of organizations, which, like Barry-Wehmiller, found a way to empower people, not processes. And that is the true power of Lean.

Nov 9, 2023

John Michel is a former Air Force General who has not only used his leadership experience in service of his country, but also to help transform businesses into places that think more about people than profit.

John has written two books, (No More) Mediocre Me: How Saying No to the Status Quo Will Propel You From Ordinary to Extraordinary and The Art of Positive Leadership. He has written articles for the Harvard Business Review, Fast Company, Huffington Post, National Geographic, Joint Forces Quarterly, and the Washington Post.

In addition to writing and speaking about leadership, John has held executive positions in the transportation and aeronautics industries and is an entrepreneur in the hospitality industry.

John talks about his leadership journey and what he's learned from Barry-Wehmiller in an interview with Brent Stewart and Mary Rudder on this podcast.

Oct 26, 2023

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting company that helps organizations identify, develop, and equip leaders. They bring the lessons we have learned at Barry-Wehmiller and our principles of Truly Human Leadership alongside scientific methods to provide individual and organizational assessments, training, and consultation. They help their clients drive exceptional results through a culture where people and performance are in harmony.

On this THL Refresher podcast, we bring you a discussion between two of Chapman & Co.’s leading partners, Sara Hannah and Matt Whiat and Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman. This was done at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic and the three use Barry-Wehmiller’s experience during crisis to give leaders insight into how they may handle their own. But it’s not a discussion that is limited to the unique situation of a global pandemic. Crisis can hit business at any time.

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